tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post1975516766425652604..comments2024-02-22T20:25:53.672-05:00Comments on Baseball Researcher: Rabbit Maranville Is Not a NaziUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-25393127080627181392023-04-02T15:41:11.810-04:002023-04-02T15:41:11.810-04:00The Nazis didn't adopt the swastika until 1920...The Nazis didn't adopt the swastika until 1920! Were talkin 1914!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-90541754502590850222017-09-07T15:19:30.244-04:002017-09-07T15:19:30.244-04:00The mention of the Lusitania was not to imply the ...The mention of the Lusitania was not to imply the swastika represented Germany at that time. The speculation was that the swastika (as a good-luck symbol) was worn in honor of the loss of life in that disaster. Of course, as Tom shows in his research, that was NOT the reason the swastika was worn.Dan Holmeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00680796898360386096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-22750157273653944462017-07-24T14:28:17.070-04:002017-07-24T14:28:17.070-04:00Dude, you are brilliant. Great research. MLB shoul...Dude, you are brilliant. Great research. MLB should hire you full time. Hats off to Tom!!!!garageherohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11592149216672540833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-39833570561749297242016-04-15T10:59:45.116-04:002016-04-15T10:59:45.116-04:00Great research! (Yea, I know that I'm 6 years...Great research! (Yea, I know that I'm 6 years late to the party.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11973855689672767449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-88041764394986565792015-03-14T01:48:53.437-04:002015-03-14T01:48:53.437-04:00Nothing to do with baseball, but another contempor...Nothing to do with baseball, but another contemporary use of the swastika was by the the KRIT Motor Car Company of Detroit, MI between 1909 and 1916:<br /><br />http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/KRIT_1913.jpg/375px-KRIT_1913.jpgGraham Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09182805428889776703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-43634491573271110282014-04-21T15:04:38.837-04:002014-04-21T15:04:38.837-04:00Love that the update was posted exactly 100 years ...Love that the update was posted exactly 100 years after the photo is thought to have been taken!gobluetwonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-35575450597812718002014-04-20T10:33:40.562-04:002014-04-20T10:33:40.562-04:00Wow, I can’t believe it’s been over 4 years since ...Wow, I can’t believe it’s been over 4 years since I originally sent that photo to Paul at Uni Watch. It sure still gets people going! By the way, the Lusitania theory & dating weren't directly mine back then, they came from an erroneous auction description that you can see here: http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=97043<br /><br />Cheers!<br />~BruceBruce Menardhttp://therealbsmile.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-1404161793827552812014-04-20T09:34:24.789-04:002014-04-20T09:34:24.789-04:00Daniel Ruth - I suggest you contact the New York T...Daniel Ruth - I suggest you contact the New York Times regarding your concerns.Tom Shieberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06064785129807399476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-86891578334406061062014-04-20T08:27:55.210-04:002014-04-20T08:27:55.210-04:00Please help to correct the New York Times article ...Please help to correct the New York Times article (April 19, 2014) that references your blog article. The NYT perpetuates the lie that the Germans called themselves "Nazis," that they called their symbol a "swastika," and that the symbol "traveled" to Germany from India (there is no evidence of that). The Germans called themselves "National Socialists" and they called their symbol a "Hakenkreuz," which means "hooked cross" because their symbol was a type of cross. It was also not a swastika in that they used it to represent crossed "S" letters for their dogma -"socialism"- as alphabetical symbolism (see the book about the work of the symbologist Dr. Rex Curry- RexCurry.net) by turning it 45 degrees from the horizontal and always pointing it in the "S" letter direction. That is another reason why the baseball cap symbol has a distinctly different meaning from the "socialist" alphabetical meaning from Germany. Germans did not "hijack" the symbol. The hijacking of the symbol was done by people who did not want to disparage the Christian cross, so they began deliberately mis-identifying the German socialist symbol as a "swastika." That continues to this day. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13486975249247211917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-44509058571659076432012-09-13T10:11:49.594-04:002012-09-13T10:11:49.594-04:00As usual, nice job researching this angle. I am a ...As usual, nice job researching this angle. I am a huge fan of the 1914 Braves (even have a screenplay ready to go!)and I am still picking interesting tid bits. <br /><br />Frank Ceresi<br />www.fcassociates.com<br /><br />PS Your investigation of the photo made me think of my good friend George Michael, who many of us miss very much, but who relished this sort of "photo" research and would have loved your work on this, Tom. Frank Ceresihttp://www.fcassociates.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-86846762681780997742011-07-22T15:40:39.044-04:002011-07-22T15:40:39.044-04:00This is great... thanks so much for your research....This is great... thanks so much for your research. It's a great story!The OCPhttp://baseballjunkies.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-54121537649317206942010-12-21T10:46:05.650-05:002010-12-21T10:46:05.650-05:00Swastikas have always been a sign of peace, good ...Swastikas have always been a sign of peace, good luck, and all things good. Most sports teams wore them for good luck,especially at the height of its popularity in the early 1900's. It doesn't matter which way it is turning, or what angle its at. Most religions that use the swastika don't differentiate at all; a swastika is a swastika. In India the they generally use a right-facing swastika, Buddhists a left-facing swastika mostly, but they also use a right facing swastika. Native Americans used the right-facing, cocked just like the Nazi variant. In the early 1900's Arizona road signs had swastikas on them. San Francisco street lamps had them, too. It was a very popular symbol and is still used by many countries, religions and cultures as a sign of all things good. These photos are clearly pre-WWII and has nothing to do with war or battle-- its a sign of good luck. He's obviously not racist for wearing a swastika. I am Native and have a swastika tattooed on me. My grandfather had one, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-88823930959520537172010-08-19T07:40:38.631-04:002010-08-19T07:40:38.631-04:00Of related interest, check out this uniform.Of related interest, check out <a href="http://www.lelands.com/Auction/AuctionDetailed/64946?page=4" rel="nofollow">this uniform</a>.Tom Shieberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06064785129807399476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-60971909008700959302010-06-06T15:50:27.327-04:002010-06-06T15:50:27.327-04:00The symbol on the cap was also an American Indian ...The symbol on the cap was also an American Indian symbol before it was a Nazi Symbol. Check with the National Museum of tne American Indian (Smithsonian)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-61208412671459308212010-04-13T14:07:56.956-04:002010-04-13T14:07:56.956-04:00In your comments of the second picture, you make r...In your comments of the second picture, you make reference to the "National Biscuit Company's advertising." <br />I'm wondering if you happen to have any information on their amateur baseball team; the NBCo. Dating from 1914 to 1918.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-27157396660957269622010-04-08T19:28:35.449-04:002010-04-08T19:28:35.449-04:00Fabulous article!Fabulous article!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-56411601046620652512010-04-06T17:24:04.952-04:002010-04-06T17:24:04.952-04:00Solid theory. I checked the NY Times article about...Solid theory. I checked <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E03EFD91E39E633A25756C1A9629C946596D6CF" rel="nofollow">the NY Times article about the game</a>, but there's no mention at all about the Braves wearing a swastika. I'd think that if they wore it that day, it'd be mentioned, since it was a little unusual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-84657545013536131312010-04-05T18:56:27.305-04:002010-04-05T18:56:27.305-04:00Reading this, I felt like I was 13 again and just ...Reading this, I felt like I was 13 again and just discovering what was so cool about baseball history. What wonderful historical reporting.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-90806579008527522422010-02-22T23:17:42.860-05:002010-02-22T23:17:42.860-05:00Great job narrowing down the date range for the ph...Great job narrowing down the date range for the photo, but you haven't demonstrated why the Braves wore those caps. "Good luck charm" is a decent surmise, but isn't proven and doesn't explain very much. Guess I'd like to know a little more about the ancient history of alternate uniforms, and a little more about the use of the swastika in baseball lore before I could feel sure you've placed the photo in the proper context.<br /><br />-ElmoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-79950942836866987192010-02-20T10:33:56.211-05:002010-02-20T10:33:56.211-05:00What great work. Perhaps it's now time for you...What great work. Perhaps it's now time for you to look over all the photos from the day JFK was shot and tell the world what really happened. Was there more than one shooter? Where did the shots come from? The world is waiting...Andy Strasbergnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-19283757710094896712010-02-19T16:39:05.874-05:002010-02-19T16:39:05.874-05:00Great sleuthing as always, Tom! (Do readers of thi...Great sleuthing as always, Tom! (Do readers of this blog know of your other work? We just got here from a Net54 link.) <br />We kinda thought the general history of the swastika itself (although certainly not of this particular usage) was, by now, common knowledge -- but when out-of-town acquaintances make their first visit to Buffalo (whence we hail), we like to take them to the Ellicott Square Building downtown. Built in 1893, it was for a while the largest office building in the entire world. Its original mosaic tile floor is intact -- decorated liberally with Native American swastikas, which usually startle and worry our visitors until the story's told.B, K, & Whttp://baseballgames.dreamhosters.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-3020202441923354472010-02-18T23:31:33.690-05:002010-02-18T23:31:33.690-05:00I've got to admit, I chuckled out loud at the ...I've got to admit, I chuckled out loud at the caption to the second Maranville photo. <br /><br />Yes, S.S. Boston does not seem so surprising a caption for a picture of a ballplayer wearing a swastika...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-61609606823971589892010-02-18T23:24:06.792-05:002010-02-18T23:24:06.792-05:00The older of the two active federal courthouses in...The older of the two active federal courthouses in Albuquerque NM, as well as one of its municipal auditorea, is still to this day festooned with pre-WWI swastika imagery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-47284958123818902542010-02-17T15:48:56.272-05:002010-02-17T15:48:56.272-05:00Excellent story. Did they wear it the next season...Excellent story. Did they wear it the next season?!?!Mike in Austinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6055358841733153770.post-71753884063328107942010-02-17T11:35:38.428-05:002010-02-17T11:35:38.428-05:00I wonder if there are any of hats still in existen...I wonder if there are any of hats still in existence. Bet that would be worth a fortune as a collector's item.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com